Session Start: Sat Aug 31 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[00:58]<PCdoc> <guitar_man> spoiled little selfcentered bling bat is my description Apples
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[05:41]<@BC_Programming> well I guess I cannot attribute my issues for VPN connections to Windows 8
[05:42]<@BC_Programming> I couldn't connect on my win7 machine either when it was using a bridged connection
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[06:05]<Zuwer> Have you tried my default answer to fixing all computer issues... A hammer?
[06:07]<@BC_Programming> No I had to fiddle with secpol.msc to fix the security policies on both machines, but am now able to connect to my work VPN through my laptop connection
[06:07]<@BC_Programming> so don't need this ancient Wireless-G USB Adapter anymore
[06:14]<Zuwer> What was causing it to fail? :o
[06:16]<@BC_Programming> the laptop had the wireless network set to a Public network, which prevented VPN connections from either the laptop or the desktop from being established, so I had to use secpol.msc to change the network type for the wireless adapter on the laptop as well as the bridged connection on the desktop, as well as disable windows firewall for private connections on the laptop (the firewall service
[06:16]<@BC_Programming> has to be enabled for the connection to bridge and share the internet connection...) and also enable Windows Firewall on the desktop and then use it's configuration to disable it's filtering for Private Networks
[06:17]<@BC_Programming> I'm not sure why I had to re-enable windows Firewall on my desktop, since all I did was enable it and then disable the part that would have been used
[06:17]<@BC_Programming> doesn't work when the service is disabled though :/
[06:19]<Zuwer> Heh, so in other words a fairly pointless service to have running then.
[06:20]<@BC_Programming> It's required
[06:20]<@BC_Programming> I think ti has to do with Internet Connection Sharing, since they are integrated in some fashion
[06:21]<Zuwer> Thought that would have been under it's own service, can't say I've looked into it though.
[06:21]<Zuwer> its*
[06:21]<Zuwer> 12:20 AM and my brain isn't functioning. :s
[06:21]<@BC_Programming> Windows Firewall has been integrated with Internet Connection sharing since XP, with XP I think the service is called "Windows Firewall and Internet Connection Sharing" or something
[06:23]<Zuwer> Ah, I suppose it isn't difficult shutting off the firewall for private networks, guess it doesn't matter having both under the same service (I know nothing about what is going on in the background that would require them both being under the service)
[06:31]<PCdoc> Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
[06:31]<PCdoc> Service Name: Shared Access
[06:32]<@BC_Programming> Yeah if I really wanted to know the pointless details I do have XP Virtual Machines. The details were irrelevant though
[06:32]<PCdoc> grrrr
[06:33]<PCdoc> wow! BC_Programming you made my day ... :P I was thinking something was missing today now I feel complete ... :P
[06:33]<PCdoc> :D
[06:34]<PCdoc> prolly i called for more :(
[06:37]<Zuwer> That reminds me, I haven't got any of my testing VM's set up again after install Windows 8. :s
[06:37]<Zuwer> installing*
[06:37]<Zuwer> Geez, cannot type at all right now.
[06:37]<@BC_Programming> VMWare is my favourite
[06:37]<Zuwer> I've always used VirtualBox. *Shrugs*
[06:37]<@BC_Programming> It's also funny to run Minecraft inside a VM, and then use Unity and have it detached and running alongside MC running on the host lol
[06:39]<Zuwer> Oh, I assume that is like VirtualBox's Seamless Mode.
[06:40]<@BC_Programming> Image search says probably
[06:40]<@BC_Programming> though VMWare supports OpenGL/Direct3D and stuff which can be useful
[06:40]<@BC_Programming> I can play Need For Speed on Windows 98SE through it, lol
[06:40]<Zuwer> Better question... Why? :P
[06:41]<@BC_Programming> Because it doesn't work on the Host system properly
[06:41]<PCdoc> yeah i use virtualbox ...
[06:41]<PCdoc> does virtualbox support win 8?
[06:42]<Zuwer> Oh, is that the first one?
[06:42]<@BC_Programming> Zuwer: NFS2 and NFS3
[06:42]<Zuwer> Yea, I run VirtualBox on a Windows 8 host machine fine.
[06:42]<@BC_Programming> first one is DOS so I would use DOSBox
[06:42]<PCdoc> no i meant can i run win 8 in virtualbox ?
[06:42]<PCdoc> as xp host
[06:43]<@BC_Programming> I don't see why it wouldn't
[06:43]<Zuwer> BC_Programming: Ah, been a while since I've seen those games.
[06:43]<Zuwer> PCdoc: Ah, I ran the dev preview of 8 in VirtualBox, don't see why the public release wouldn't.
[06:43]<@BC_Programming> Zuwer: Though not just NFS really, also other games from that Era that simply don't work on modern systems or don't work properly
[06:44]<PCdoc> 95mb :-o
[06:44]<Zuwer> BC_Programming: That's understandable, I had to do that for a couple of games my brother wanted to play again.
[06:45]<@BC_Programming> PCDoc: 95MB which?
[06:45]<PCdoc> m downloading virtualbox latest version
[06:47]<@BC_Programming> oh? why
[06:47]<PCdoc> :D
[06:48]<Zuwer> I've only ever managed to chat with him via IRC twice, I'm not sure if it is a timezone thing or he just doesn't check back too often. :/
[06:49]<PCdoc> that day it was morning here... so if he is in USA it must be night there
[06:49]<PCdoc> at indian standard time 9am
[06:50]<PCdoc> the fb send message thing sends the msg to "other" folder as it says
[06:50]<PCdoc> and many ppl are not even aware of that folder .. it sends to that folder if u r not frnds with that guy
[06:51]<PCdoc> and u dont get notified if that folder has new msges
[06:53]<Zuwer> From the short while I ever actually used FB, can't say I saw that feature.
[06:59]<Zuwer> The amount of stuff my granddad has packed into one of the sheds here is quite impressive. We've barely scratched the surface and we have a full trailer load of scrap metal, a trailer load of wooden posts for the bonfire and about half a trailer of rubbish.
[07:00]<Zuwer> In saying that though, most of the scrap metal is from when the property was a winery and when he used to collect and trade vintage car parts to build his current ones.
[07:00]<PCdoc> Oracle VM Vietualbox 4.2.16 networking feature << do i need to install this ?
[07:01]<Zuwer> I believe the installation stops if you don't.
[07:03]<PCdoc> what is the differenc ebwteen host only networking and bridged?
[07:04]<PCdoc> if i want to run internet on the vm .. which one do i need?
[07:04]<Zuwer> NAT.
[07:04]<PCdoc> nat ?!
[07:04]<PCdoc> which one of the above ?
[07:05]<Zuwer> Then bridged.
[07:06]<PCdoc> ok thanks
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[07:16]<Zuwer> :o Shuffling my music was helpful for once, found an artist I completely forgot I had on this PC.
[07:29]<PCdoc> what artist ?
[07:30]<Zuwer> Alter Bridge.
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[07:54]<+camerongray> He has tp be trolling now! <db100547> psu= power source unit
[07:54]<@BC_Programming> lol
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[08:23]<PCdoc> camerongray: hahahahaha
[08:23]<PCdoc> and he is mod ??
[08:23]<PCdoc> :-o
[08:23]<PCdoc> HOP
[08:24]<PCdoc> camerongray: shall i take screenshot ?? or paste log ??
[08:24]<PCdoc> =))
[08:51]<PCdoc> camerongray: check pm
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[09:46]<PCdoc> the computer market is down in here .. and the ch forum is also slow .. no new post in hardware, software .. :-s
[09:47]<PCdoc> i thought ppl dont wanna spend .. but ppl dun want free advice too ??:-o
[10:00]<+Tux2> lol
[10:02]<@BC_Programming> haha http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/grief-prevention/tickets/316-add-disable-mobs-in-claims-option/
[10:02]<@BC_Programming> "I dont think its designed for enterprise level servers/player numbers."
[10:02]<@BC_Programming> Enterprise? lol
[10:04]<+Tux2> lol
[10:06]<+Tux2> Just replied to him
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[12:06]<Steimey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM_p1Az05Jo
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[16:10]<jamer> what just happened
[16:11]<@BC_Programming> nothing
[16:11]<jamer> the one good op on ch just got kicked ...
[16:12]<@BC_Programming> Quantos?
[16:12]<+camerongray> baconbuttie
[16:12]<+camerongray> Think it was an accident though
[16:12]<+camerongray> Since nothing was said
[16:12]<jamer> maybe
[16:12]<@BC_Programming> who did the kickling?
[16:12]<jamer> hd8
[16:13]<@BC_Programming> probably an accident
[16:13]<jamer> that explains it O.o
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[16:29]<+Craig> :P
[16:40]<Zuwer> Oh how I love showing people how to sign up for things online, especially when they can't even log in to their accounts without help. :s
[17:24]<+camerongray> Oh yay, trying to help someone spec a PC and all the ops get excited
[17:24]<+camerongray> <patio> Micro ATX is OK price - wise ? ? when's the last time you went shoppin ? ?
[17:24]<+camerongray> <camerongray> patio: Built a Micro-ATX PC what, 5 days ago or something
[17:25]<+camerongray> Killed him on that one though
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Session Start: Sat Aug 31 18:16:16 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [18:16] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[18:16] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[18:41]<cr0c0di13> any1 looking?
[18:41]<Craig> Evochron Mercenary! Woot, join my server 184.71.199.202
[18:43]<cr0c0di13> Craig:who's that?
[18:43]<Craig> Game
[18:44]<cr0c0di13> oh, OK were u telling me to join?
[18:44]<Craig> Anyone can
[18:44]<cr0c0di13> how do i join ur server?
[18:44]<cr0c0di13> what do i type in? or just put that ip in my url bar in my browser?
[18:44]<Craig> You have to have the game?
[18:45]<cr0c0di13> does it cost $$?
[18:45]<Craig> ... stop talking
[18:45]<cr0c0di13> am not much of a gamer, just dirt 2 and tiger woods pga is 'bout all i can play nowadays
[18:54]<+camerongray> Craig: How many game servers do you have now? :P
[18:54]<Craig> 2 Technically,
[18:55]<Craig> 1 Ubuntu server, and one BSD Server/Router
[18:55]<Craig> ... OH! Game servers :p
[18:55]<cr0c0di13> hey camerongray do u know if that game costs $$?
[18:55]<Craig> uhhhh 6 depending on how many people want to play what games
[18:56]<cr0c0di13> guess i could google/bing it, eh :s
[18:56]<Craig> Or steam...
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[19:31]<+camerongray> lol, hey baconbuttie
[19:31]<baconbuttie> camerongray: hiya :D
[19:32]<baconbuttie> just being nosy ;)
[19:32]<+camerongray> hehe
[19:32]<+camerongray> Nothing much going on at the moment
[19:32]<baconbuttie> seems that way all over
[19:33]<+camerongray> yeah
[19:34]<Craig> I could make it more exciting by kicking Chanbot. :P
[19:34]<+camerongray> haha
[19:34]<baconbuttie> lol, you rebel
[19:35]<+camerongray> It's okay though, Chanbot doesn't kick randomly :P
[19:35]<+camerongray> Look, I can say "idiot"
[19:35]<+camerongray> And "damn"
[19:35]<baconbuttie> :O
[19:35]<+camerongray> And look at this one...
[19:35]<Craig> I can say anything I want :P
[19:35]<+camerongray> USB?
[19:35]<baconbuttie> damn, blast and bugger it
[19:35]<+camerongray> It doesn't butt in! :D
[19:35]<baconbuttie> lol
[19:36]<baconbuttie> must be a chilled bot
[19:36]<+camerongray> Yeah, pretty good one
[19:36]<Craig> Nah its just smarter than all the rest,
[19:36]<Craig> Try repeating yourself a couple times
[19:36]<+camerongray> Made by 'jacky' - Lostcoast's best friend :P
[19:36]<baconbuttie> ha ha
[19:37]<+camerongray> No idea why he hates jacky
[19:37]<baconbuttie> same here
[19:37]<+camerongray> Make sure he doesn't /whois you and see you here, or he'll call you a "Hater" for joining the "Hate Club"
[19:37]<Craig> ... OH! Game servers :p
[19:37]<Craig> uhhhh 6 depending on how many people want to play what games
[19:37]<+camerongray> I'll never get that :P
[19:38]<baconbuttie> i try to keep out of the who hates who and why, its only IRC
[19:38]<+camerongray> Yeah, same here!
[19:38]<+camerongray> Some people take it so seriously!
[19:38]<+camerongray> I need to finish sorting that server I bought off Calum - It's so loud though :P
[19:38]<baconbuttie> LC knows i pop in here now and then anyways
[19:39]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[19:39]<Craig> Buy better fans, it will quiet down :p
[19:39]<+camerongray> Hate me for it :P
[19:39]<+camerongray> Craig: It's a 1U rackmount so loud
[19:39]<Craig> I have 1U fans that are quiet, :)
[19:39]<+camerongray> Works well though, just for some reason forgets it's second CPU when you reboot so have to shutdown and power on again
[19:40]<+camerongray> Just hope it's not too loud as it's going in a room at uni that's right next to one of the computer labs
[19:41]<+camerongray> Don't want to annoy people
[19:41]<baconbuttie> fan noise ?
[19:41]<+camerongray> Yeah
[19:41]<+camerongray> Whole width is just really powerful fans
[19:43]<+camerongray> Can't find rails for it though so will have a repeat of our fun at work
[19:44]<+camerongray> Oh great! "PC Matic" advert just came on TV
[19:44]<+camerongray> Oh, makes it faster and safer :P
[19:45]<baconbuttie> yeh, right
[19:45]<+camerongray> "PC Matic can improve download speeds too"
[19:45]<baconbuttie> Oooo, must get it
[19:45]<+camerongray> lol
[19:45]<+camerongray> Tempted to put it on my junk laptop again
[19:45]<+camerongray> Still not reinstalled after the Driver Agent incident
[19:46]<+camerongray> Worth a laugh :P
[19:47]<baconbuttie> have you tried ADWcleaner ?
[19:47]<+camerongray> Nope
[19:47]<+camerongray> Seen it mentioned though
[19:47]<jamer> im done with deadspace 3 for now ...
[19:47]<baconbuttie> i got it today from bleeping computers, not tried it yet but has good reports
[19:47]<+camerongray> Ahh cool
[19:47]<baconbuttie> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/adwcleaner/
[19:48]<+camerongray> I wonder if anyone from PCMatic will post my hostname in IRC :P
[19:48]<baconbuttie> :D
[19:49]<+camerongray> Or yesterday some guy came in asking us to look at his software he wrote - I of course took it to pieces and poked holes in the fact that everything was vulnerable to SQL injection :P
[19:49]<+camerongray> Of course he claimed that it wasn't important
[19:49]<baconbuttie> yep i see that one
[19:49]<+camerongray> But then he goes, "Which of these is your IP" - And posts 3 IPs!
[19:49]<baconbuttie> yep
[19:49]<+camerongray> I was connected from work
[19:50]<+camerongray> Could rDNS them, get a domain that's our company initials, see what company that's registered to and find where I work :P
[19:50]<+camerongray> And since there's only like 8 of us, wouldn't be hard to identify me :P
[19:50]<baconbuttie> still shows how dumb he is
[19:50]<+camerongray> Yeah
[19:50]<+camerongray> Typical 14 year old "Programmer"
[19:51]<+camerongray> Website worded to look like a big company
[19:51]<baconbuttie> needs a good slap or need his servers wiped :P
[19:51]<+camerongray> haha
[19:52]<jamer> :P thursday i first tried visual basic
[19:54]<+camerongray> Now time for the "PC Matic" scan :D
[19:56]<+camerongray> haha, it's actually scanning for 'Craplets'
[19:56]<baconbuttie> looking for its self then...
[19:56]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[19:56]<+camerongray> I wonder what it will do for the internet speed :P
[19:57]<Zuwer> I've lost all faith in that scan, not that I had much faith in it judging by the software name. :s
[19:57]<+camerongray> And this laptop has a chance as it can only get around 60mbps through my 100mbps connection
[19:57]<baconbuttie> it uses some mystical wizardry for the internet speed "the black arts"
[19:57]<+camerongray> haha
[19:58]<+camerongray> Said that it tweaked the registry *facepalm*
[19:59]<Zuwer> Does ctrl+a -> Delete count as a tweak?
[19:59]<baconbuttie> tweaking the registry....is that like putting a brick in the washing machine ?
[20:00]<+camerongray> lol! Referring to photonitinduction's video?
[20:00]<+camerongray> 21 fixes!
[20:00]<+camerongray> And a free "Advice Item" which is to upgrade from Vista to 7
[20:00]<baconbuttie> YAY
[20:01]<+camerongray> And it's in the "Bottom 32% of the world's PCs"
[20:01]<+camerongray> Surely this should be way lower! Celeron 440
[20:02]<+camerongray> Amazingly it "passed" my registry
[20:03]<Zuwer> Did you ever do that comparison between manufacturer's drivers and DA's ones?
[20:03]<baconbuttie> haha
[20:03]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, no difference :P
[20:04]<+camerongray> *REALLY* pissed guitar_man off! Did I show you the PM?
[20:04]<Zuwer> Nope, but I can imagine it would have.
[20:05]<+camerongray> Oh, this is better than usual
[20:06]<Zuwer> I still don't understand why it wanted me to install a driver I already had installed, exact version and all.
[20:06]<+camerongray> haha
[20:06]<+camerongray> Here we go: http://pastebin.com/zsktsi7g
[20:13]<Zuwer> That is a little... Extreme. :o
[20:14]<+camerongray> Yeah
[20:15]<+camerongray> Classic example of people taking IRC too seriously
[20:19]<+camerongray> I like this bit:
[20:19]<+camerongray> <camerongray> Oh, I'm sure lostcoast would love to see this!
[20:19]<+camerongray> <guitar_man> am gonna post it on my face book page , he can read it and this there
[20:19]<Zuwer> Threatening people through the internet isn't a good look. :x
[20:19]<+camerongray> I mean, no reason he would post it on Facebook (If he actually used something that modern), like it would make him look good!
[20:19]<+camerongray> "Hey lostcoast, look at me!"
[20:23]<jamer> lol camerongray anything modern for him would be when xp sp2 came out XD
[20:23]<+camerongray> haha
[20:23]<+camerongray> He'll love me, I just replaced my granny's XP machine with one running 7 :D
[20:24]<+camerongray> She hates technology and even she said she prefers 7 but "Just needs to get used to some things"
[20:24]<jamer> you know what we do to the schools old xp computers? we use them for our hardware mabs XD
[20:25]<jamer> lab*
[20:25]<+camerongray> lol
[20:25]<jamer> we have a cabinet full of old xp computers
[20:26]<jamer> all of our schools computers run windows 7 professional
[20:26]<+camerongray> Built her a nice machine - Pentium Dual Core G2020 (Ivy Bridge), 4gb RAM (HyperX), 128gb SSD, Corsair CX430 PSU, Gigabyte GA-B75M-D2V, InWin case, Windows 7 Home Premium
[20:26]<jamer> better than mine XD
[20:27]<+camerongray> lol
[20:27]<Zuwer> I'm going to see if I can buy one of the old lab machines from campus, be a good back up machine if this one dies.
[20:27]<+camerongray> More than she needs but she'll keep it forever so makes sense to get something that will last
[20:27]<Zuwer> I mean, the IT tutors got given $3000 each to upgrade their PCs, can't imagine it'll be long until the lab machines get updated too.
[20:28]<+camerongray> SSD is the key, she'll judge how fast a PC is by how quickly she can open stuff and boot, not how quickly it can calculate prime numbers :P
[20:28]<jamer> zuwer i might do that also ... the hardware lab desktops ill talk to my lab teacher and see how much one would run me for
[20:28]<+camerongray> Even then, the CPU is still decent
[20:29]<Zuwer> camerongray: If that is just for browsing the web and so on, can't complain with that. :P
[20:29]<+camerongray> Yeah
[20:29]<+camerongray> Turned out the only reason she hadn't upgraded for years is she liked her monitor - Jumped at the new one when I said she would use her existing monitor
[20:29]<jamer> if i would get one of the schools old lab computers would i be happy? yeah .. its an am2 athlon x2
[20:29]<+camerongray> 19", 1280x1024 with the DPI at 150% so she can see it :P
[20:29]<Zuwer> jamer: Probably be worth it, I mostly just want the PSU and case from the lab machines, even though I don't NEED it.
[20:30]<Zuwer> camerongray: Heh.
[20:30]<jamer> Zuwer our lab computers have a geforce 550
[20:30]<+camerongray> Our machines at uni are all either Core 2 Duo or i5 2400
[20:31]<jamer> ours atm is i5 with a quattro 2000
[20:31]<Zuwer> jamer: I could sell you my one if you want, I'm planning on upgrading soon.
[20:31]<+camerongray> Informatics uses Linux (Scientific Linux 6) and the rest of the uni uses Windows 7 Enterprise
[20:31]<jamer> zuwer ild have to save up
[20:32]<Zuwer> The lab PC's were all i7 920's, 12GB RAM, 1TB HD's, PSU, RAM and Case, forgotten what specifically they were now.
[20:32]<jamer> O.o our i5's are ivy bridge if i remember correctly
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[20:33]<Zuwer> I bought the machine's we built for the A+ thing, they do a practical test on how to build a PC.
[20:33]<jamer> Zuwer thats what we use our old lab desktops for is the hands on A= training
[20:33]<jamer> A+*
[20:34]<+camerongray> That A+ stuff does sound fun :P
[20:34]<Zuwer> Makes sense, I wouldn't have trusted some of those people in my class to build any PC for me. :x
[20:34]<+camerongray> All my stuff is theory
[20:34]<jamer> camerongray A+ this year and network+ next year
[20:35]<+camerongray> Ahh cool
[20:35]<jamer> i know ive been hanging out with you guys too much when on the practice exam i got a 72% XD
[20:35]<+camerongray> lol, nice!
[20:35]<Zuwer> They stopped doing Network+ as the campus I went to, only do CCNA now.
[20:35]<+camerongray> :D https://twitter.com/camerongray1515/status/348016094520414210/photo/1
[20:35]<jamer> the exam wasnt graded ... lucky for my clas mates XD
[20:36]<Zuwer> Heh, camerongray.
[20:36]<+camerongray> No idea how I managed that, lost 30 mins of exam time after making my machine completely freak out
[20:36]<+camerongray> Launched 10 instances of my program before realising there was an infinite loo[
[20:36]<jamer> XD
[20:36]<+camerongray> loop*
[20:36]<+camerongray> Tried to open a PDF and it completely locked up
[20:37]<+camerongray> Took 20 mins to get through the menus to open a terminal to kill all my processes!
[20:37]<+camerongray> Liteally 5 mins for a menu to appear
[20:37]<jamer> better than my dad ... or this one kid in my class ...
[20:38]<jamer> theres a calculator key on our keyboards (microsoft keyboards i tell you ...) and he accidently left a book on it and opened over 200 calculators
[20:39]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[20:40]<jamer> you ok there camerongray?
[20:40]<Zuwer> Heh. Oops.
[20:40]<+camerongray> huh?
[20:40]<jamer> i wasnt done yet XD
[20:41]<+camerongray> ahh
[20:41]<jamer> well he froze not only his computer but our instructor's pc (we have a monitoring program on our school desktops)
[20:42]<jamer> long story short ... dont put your books down on your keyboard ...
[20:44]<Zuwer> I quite often leave things propped against my keyboard where the audio controls are, you'd think I'd learn from the amount of times the volume has either been turned up or down, but nope.
[20:44]<Zuwer> Lately my desk has actually been tidy. I need to make a mess soon before people start thinking I'm a tidy person.
[20:56]<baconbuttie> should really clean my desk http://tinypic.com/r/w1wfvb/5
[20:56]<jamer> my school lab desk is clean clean
[20:57]<+camerongray> lol, mine is worse :P
[20:57]<+camerongray> Well, the desk isn't bad, but room is full of XT bits :P
[20:57]<jamer> i dont have cabinet space ... ive got 3 desktops inside my cabinet
[20:58]<jamer> and ive got my main sff desktop on top
[21:00]<Zuwer> baconbuttie: That is what my desk usually looks like.
[21:01]<baconbuttie> problem is i am running out of space up here, got this lot behind me [IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/2irn80.jpg[/IMG]
[21:04]<+camerongray> Ahh :P
[21:04]<jamer> ive got more desktops in my room than camerongrey or tux ...
[21:04]<+camerongray> Haha
[21:04]<+camerongray> 2 here, but one is junk
[21:04]<+camerongray> Actually, 3 if you count the XT
[21:04]<+camerongray> And a couple of servers
[21:04]<jamer> panarama time XD
[21:08]<jamer> http://postimg.org/image/xb4b9f44f/full/
[21:09]<jamer> the 3 in my shelving are spare parts only ...
[21:14]<jamer> gah .... gotta restore my old phone to factory
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